The party is already unifying

It has been a long and competitive process.  For many, if not most of us, great passions have been aroused.  In my view, those passions have mostly been aimed at supporting our preferred candidate.  This bodes well for the Democratic party's ability to come together to win the White House.

And, in my view, it is already happening.  You can see it in the two tracking polls.

Rasmussen has shown a close race in recent weeks.  Today's poll shows a marked uptick for Obama, giving him an 8 point lead over Clinton. But, more strikingly is what Rasmussen says about the polling since Tuesday's election:

Two nights of interviews for today's update were completed after the Indiana and North Carolina Primaries. For those two nights on a stand-alone basis, Obama leads Clinton by eleven percentage points.  http://rasmussenreports.com/public_conte nt/politics/election_20082/2008_presiden tial_election/daily_presidential_trackin g_poll

The same pattern can be seen in the Gallup tracking poll.  Their most recent release has only one day of polling after NC and IN.  But they report:

Obama did well in interviews conducted on Wednesday night, suggesting that as the full impact of Tuesday's results and the media coverage of the status of the nomination campaign sinks in with voters, he may move back into the lead.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/107149/Gallup -Daily-Clinton-Obama-Remain-Closely-Matc hed.aspx

Much more will unfold in the coming weeks.  But it seems to me that we're seeing the signs of a party ready to come together to beat John McCain.  Of course some bruised feelings will remain.  However, these polls -- and also their results (not presented here, but see links for particulars) that show Obama ahead of McCain -- suggest that it most certainly will be possible for us to go forward together.



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Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

I don't believe the Democratic party will move forward with the base of years prior to this election cycle. The DNC moved boldy and we will see in November if they have chosen the correct route.


by Liberty on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:37:01 AM EST

Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

Is broadening our base and increasing activism and fundraising in way hard to put into words a "bold" move with unknown effects?

Wow, Democrats are crushing and you seem reluctant.


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by GeorgeP922 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:39:25 AM EST
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Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

I don't view a broadening of the base. As far as fundraising, the DNC is hurting at this moment. But this is just my opinion which most likely is not shared by fellow Democrats.


by Liberty on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:42:20 AM EST
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DNC's job is to get Obama elected (none / 0)

(or hillary, should she pull off a miracle -- and if she can do that, she deserves to be president).

People are giving by the droves to Obama himself. It's all good.


His head is bowed. He thinks of men and kings. Yea, when the sick world cries, how can he sleep?
by RisingTide on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:44:33 AM EST
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Re: DNC's job is to get Obama elected (none / 0)

Liberty, please repeat back what you said.

The Democrats are not raising money?
And you concede people will disagree with you, I wonder why?

Because that statement is rooted in backwards logic.

Money wise we have the republicans on the run.

If your opinion still differs, I would love some insight.

Until then go to http://www.actblue.com
Then try and find me the Republican equivalent.


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by GeorgeP922 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:49:46 AM EST
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Re: DNC's job is to get Obama elected (none / 0)

Obama's campaign is raising money. The DNC is not raising money.


by Liberty on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:57:01 AM EST
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Re: DNC's job is to get Obama elected (none / 0)

That's b/c the DSCC, the DCCC and the various campaigns are sucking all the money up.  

But the DNC is only going to use that money to support the candidates anyways.  So it's just allocated differently.


by Lawyerish on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:28:34 AM EST
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Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

How did the DNC move boldly?


by interestedbystander on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:44:00 AM EST
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Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

It is a bold move to once again put a nominee who the GOP will define as an elite, out of touch, non-patriot up against a war hero, a national security candidate. I believe the DNC mouth pieces of Brazile, Pelosi, and company have made it perfectly clear that the Democratic party is shifting to exclude the blue-collar, white-working class, and Hispanic demographics.  


by Liberty on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:55:05 AM EST
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Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

The DNC didn't do this, the voters did.


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by politicsmatters on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:58:46 AM EST
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Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

No one is shutting out anybody... You want to feel that way, 'cos Hillary decided to use divide and conquer tactics to make you feel this way.  You certainly didn't feel this way before March, did you?  

It's BS.... completely and totally...  It also ignores the other demographics that a Hillary candidacy would supposedly "shut out"... but, you don't mind disenfranchising them!  Especially if it meant overturning the popular will..


by LordMike on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:16:21 AM EST
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Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

I own my perception and my perspective. I stand by it regardless of your tactics to twist and distort. In the twenty plus years of supporting this party, I have embraced all demographics, but you go for a false slam and accusation...


by Liberty on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:31:06 AM EST
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Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

As have I... that's why I was so upset when Hillary supporters called other democrats elitists, as I'm sure you were upset when Hillary supporters were called racists...

Enough... We are all one...  These fights should never have happened... Had the primary ended in Wisconsin, as it mathematically did, these divisive issues would never have been brought up... Back then, the party was satisfied with either candidate... now, we are fractured....


by LordMike on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:28:59 PM EST
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Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

The voters did that, not the DNC.  

You should admit that the GOP would have defined Hillary as an elite, out of touch, non-patriot who was going up against a war hero.  And given the fact that she's ultra-rich and has been in Washington DC for most of recent history, they would have a much better argument about that then they do towards Obama.

The idea that he will be attacked any more effectively or roughly then Clinton would have been is farcical.


by Lawyerish on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:30:10 AM EST
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ofcourse it is uniting, I mean did everyone forget McCain/Romney?

those 2 split the party and it was wow McCain won't get the base around him.

6 months from now will be a LONG time for Democrats to sit and hear McCain say things like he will fill the courts with judges who will overturn roe v. wade.

eventually most of em will come around, and some of those who wont? are probably Republican trolls to begin with,

I hope the don't think we are stupid enough NOT to know they are here.


Congratulations to Barack Obama, the presumptive Presumptive Democratic Nominee
by TruthMatters on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:40:24 AM EST

A great experiment (none / 0)

I think we needed to try something new.

I can't wait to see how it turns out.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:41:48 AM EST

Re: The party is already unifying (none / 0)

It's interesting to note that despite McCain's overwhelming certainty of getting the Republican nomination, he still can't crack 75% of the vote in their primary.  Bush himself only has a 60% approval rating among Republicans.  

While we discuss Democratic unity, the subtext should really be about how disaffected most of the opposition is.  Democrats are winning elections in crazy-red areas lately.. the mood of the country is dark, and most of the people still blame the party of the President.

Without a Clinton on the ticket to antagonize Republicans, the story of the 2008 election will be similar to that of 2006.  An incredible number of new Democrats joining the voting ranks, and an equally incredible number of Republicans choosing to stay home/play golf/shoot rats instead of vote.


by Wayward Son on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:11:51 AM EST

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I have little doubt that most Hillary supporters  will "come home" to the party, even if she isn't the nominee. And to a lesser extent, you can sort of see it happening around here, too. A lot of anger, but also a lot of acceptance and a pretty strong "our candidate lost, but it's time to move on" sentiment. That's a good sign, especially considering that she's not even out of the race yet.


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by sricki on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:19:20 AM EST

Re: The party is already unifying (2.00 / 0)

It's good to see this.  I definitely was getting worried about a party split that would last through the general.  


Beat McCain!
by thezzyzx on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:25:47 AM EST
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It can be tough to see sometimes (none / 0)

What with people like TexasDarlin keeping up the fight, and the antagonism, for no perceptible reason.

Clinton supporters, by and large, are true Democrats, and as such have suffered disappointment in the past... yet their loyalty hasn't wavered much.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:23:03 PM EST
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Re: It can be tough to see sometimes (none / 0)

Yes, and I understand that desire to keep up the fight. But at this point, giving her the nomination would hurt the party. And I honestly think a lot of African Americans wouldn't vote for her. So she'd win the nomination and then lose the GE, which is worse, in my opinion.


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by sricki on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:32:03 PM EST
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